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		<title>By: Joseph Crawford</title>
		<link>http://www.josephcrawford.com/2006/08/24/review-php-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-16689</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 13:21:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stas,

I would love to however I run Mac OS X as my primary operating system.  It will have to wait until next week sometime when I am home and can run it under my Virtual Machine.

Now since I run OS X full time I will not use the IDE no matter how good it is, however I will review the software and write up a review on the site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stas,</p>
<p>I would love to however I run Mac OS X as my primary operating system.  It will have to wait until next week sometime when I am home and can run it under my Virtual Machine.</p>
<p>Now since I run OS X full time I will not use the IDE no matter how good it is, however I will review the software and write up a review on the site.</p>
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		<title>By: Stas</title>
		<link>http://www.josephcrawford.com/2006/08/24/review-php-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-16677</link>
		<dc:creator>Stas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 07:59:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.

Please, review also new free very powerfull PHP IDE - http:/www.codelobster.com

Thanks.
Stas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.</p>
<p>Please, review also new free very powerfull PHP IDE &#8211; http:/www.codelobster.com</p>
<p>Thanks.<br />
Stas.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Crawford</title>
		<link>http://www.josephcrawford.com/2006/08/24/review-php-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-15411</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you run Mac OS X please also see my reviews on Coda

http://josephcrawford.com/?s=Coda</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you run Mac OS X please also see my reviews on Coda</p>
<p><a href="http://josephcrawford.com/?s=Coda" rel="nofollow">http://josephcrawford.com/?s=Coda</a></p>
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		<title>By: elnaz</title>
		<link>http://www.josephcrawford.com/2006/08/24/review-php-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-15409</link>
		<dc:creator>elnaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 18:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>btw i tested all the latest version of these programs in this week:
Zend 6.1
Phped 5.6
Rapid php 2008
Php Designer 6.2.1
Dream weaver CS3
Net Beans 6.5

and honostly 1st is Phped and second is Zend (for slow prob and some code completion) and i know the choosing thing is all personal and every one have a deferent idea, so do NOT blame me on this if u are disagree with me.
for me code completion is a big deal because im very new in PHP and i need to see each property i use in any object.
just wanted to show some of my experience so maybe some day helpful for someone :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>btw i tested all the latest version of these programs in this week:<br />
Zend 6.1<br />
Phped 5.6<br />
Rapid php 2008<br />
Php Designer 6.2.1<br />
Dream weaver CS3<br />
Net Beans 6.5</p>
<p>and honostly 1st is Phped and second is Zend (for slow prob and some code completion) and i know the choosing thing is all personal and every one have a deferent idea, so do NOT blame me on this if u are disagree with me.<br />
for me code completion is a big deal because im very new in PHP and i need to see each property i use in any object.<br />
just wanted to show some of my experience so maybe some day helpful for someone <img src='http://www.josephcrawford.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Crawford &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Review: Zend, Support vs Sales Tactics</title>
		<link>http://www.josephcrawford.com/2006/08/24/review-php-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-4856</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Crawford &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Review: Zend, Support vs Sales Tactics</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 13:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] inclined to continue using their products. If you know of a good IDE other than those listed in my PHP IDE&#8217;s review please let me know so that I can give it a shot.    News, Software, Internet, Entertainment, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] inclined to continue using their products. If you know of a good IDE other than those listed in my PHP IDE&#8217;s review please let me know so that I can give it a shot.    News, Software, Internet, Entertainment, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Crawford</title>
		<link>http://www.josephcrawford.com/2006/08/24/review-php-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-691</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:36:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rob,

Thanks for the tip on PDT.  Yea SMB over VPN was slow at first but then my employer got a fast pipe in the offices so it was not slow at all.  However the way that Eclipse handles remotely mounted volumes is the issue.  The team knows about the issue as I submitted a bug but I am not sure when or if they are working on a fix for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rob,</p>
<p>Thanks for the tip on PDT.  Yea SMB over VPN was slow at first but then my employer got a fast pipe in the offices so it was not slow at all.  However the way that Eclipse handles remotely mounted volumes is the issue.  The team knows about the issue as I submitted a bug but I am not sure when or if they are working on a fix for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Marscher</title>
		<link>http://www.josephcrawford.com/2006/08/24/review-php-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-690</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Marscher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 16:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Joe,

Man... SMB mounted over a VPN sounds rough.  I wonder if it would be better to pull all the files to a local drive and then have an rsync script firing off all the time to send your updates to the drive over the VPN.

You should check out the Zend Eclipse plugins too: http://www.zend.com/pdt

Here&#039;s a direct link to the &lt;a href=&quot;http://downloads.zend.com/pdt/all-in-one/pdt-0.7.0.I20070208_debugger-0.1.7-all-in-one-macosx-carbon.tar.gz&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;latest version&lt;/a&gt;.

It&#039;s not going to help though with the problem where Eclipse wants to traverse all your files to index it and check for errors/todos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Joe,</p>
<p>Man&#8230; SMB mounted over a VPN sounds rough.  I wonder if it would be better to pull all the files to a local drive and then have an rsync script firing off all the time to send your updates to the drive over the VPN.</p>
<p>You should check out the Zend Eclipse plugins too: <a href="http://www.zend.com/pdt" rel="nofollow">http://www.zend.com/pdt</a></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a direct link to the <a href="http://downloads.zend.com/pdt/all-in-one/pdt-0.7.0.I20070208_debugger-0.1.7-all-in-one-macosx-carbon.tar.gz" rel="nofollow">latest version</a>.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not going to help though with the problem where Eclipse wants to traverse all your files to index it and check for errors/todos.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Crawford</title>
		<link>http://www.josephcrawford.com/2006/08/24/review-php-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-687</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello,

Thanks for asking that it seems I should clarify.  I am working over a VPN at home and I have to mount my files from an SMB mounted drive.  Between the 3 editors above the only one that will work well for me is Zend.

Eclipse does not have the proper support for SMB mounted volumes so they are very slow to read and write.  As for the local projects/files Eclipse worked fine.  It just did not work for my situation since all of my files were on the remotely mounted drive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,</p>
<p>Thanks for asking that it seems I should clarify.  I am working over a VPN at home and I have to mount my files from an SMB mounted drive.  Between the 3 editors above the only one that will work well for me is Zend.</p>
<p>Eclipse does not have the proper support for SMB mounted volumes so they are very slow to read and write.  As for the local projects/files Eclipse worked fine.  It just did not work for my situation since all of my files were on the remotely mounted drive.</p>
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		<title>By: Jiju Thomas Mathew</title>
		<link>http://www.josephcrawford.com/2006/08/24/review-php-ides/comment-page-1/#comment-686</link>
		<dc:creator>Jiju Thomas Mathew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2007 14:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe:
you said: One drawback that i am seeing to Eclipse is the time it takes to load a project.

I hope it does not mean for most of my files, since my project files are all less than 15k, and we use SVN and development server in the lan itself. 

I have not yet tried using any of the IDE&#039;s, since I was quite happy doing my edits using the Bluefish editor, which is ofcourse not an IDE, but just an editor. 

Just started my download of the eclipse for Windows.. Will do the same for linux when I get back home.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe:<br />
you said: One drawback that i am seeing to Eclipse is the time it takes to load a project.</p>
<p>I hope it does not mean for most of my files, since my project files are all less than 15k, and we use SVN and development server in the lan itself. </p>
<p>I have not yet tried using any of the IDE&#8217;s, since I was quite happy doing my edits using the Bluefish editor, which is ofcourse not an IDE, but just an editor. </p>
<p>Just started my download of the eclipse for Windows.. Will do the same for linux when I get back home.</p>
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		<title>By: pombredanne</title>
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		<dc:creator>pombredanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Aug 2006 21:26:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said also:
&gt;I am still on the lookout for the BEST IDE for PHP development 
Come and join us make it better, both EasyEclipse and PHPEclipse are community projects, and we need all the help we can get, even it is just testing and reviewing and providing cool reviews like yours.
You can find me and other folks for those projects on freenode IRC at #easyeclipse and #phpeclipse</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said also:<br />
&gt;I am still on the lookout for the BEST IDE for PHP development<br />
Come and join us make it better, both EasyEclipse and PHPEclipse are community projects, and we need all the help we can get, even it is just testing and reviewing and providing cool reviews like yours.<br />
You can find me and other folks for those projects on freenode IRC at #easyeclipse and #phpeclipse</p>
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